INTERVIEW: Reuben @ Club Academy, Manchester (06/04/2008)

Date: April 6th, 2008
Venue: Club Academy, Manchester
Interviewer: Zach Redrup

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After recently releasing their first split EP, Zach from DEAD PRESS! is lead to the backstage area of the Club Academy venue in Manchester. Jon Pearce offered Zach some coke, ham, or houmous before the interview started from the band’s fridge. After the the kind offers of food and drink, Zach and Jon sat down to talk about the EP, their latest studio album, and biscuits?


Zach: How’s the tour gone so far?
Jon: It’s been – been really well. I mean, unfortunately Guy‘s been with us a lot of the time, most of the time infact so –
Zach: In drum world aswell?
Jon: Yeah, he’s been his weird little self. But it’s been brilliant, the shows have been really really busy, we sold – sold well, everyone’s happy and…
[Guy walks into the room and introduces himself]
Jon: Do you want to come for an interview aswell Guy? Come with, come with, we’re having a chat. I’ve just started.
[Guy moves over to the wall]
Guy: I’ll just – I’ll just be here. I’ll be involved, I’ll be involved.
Jon: It’s all good. But yeah, the shows have been brilliant, I mean we’ve got some long drives coming up now which will be rubbish like it’s Norwich tomorrow, which is like a monster drive. But you know, it was really cool in Nottingham yesterday, and just kinda poodling over here, and there’s been snow, and –
Zach: At least you’re not in America, ’cause then you have to drive to like hours and hours between states.
Jon: Even in Europe actually, like we leave the venue, drive for like 5 or 6 hours, sleep, get up and drive for another 5 or 6 hours, and play. You know the UK, it’s only about – you can travel a few hours a day.
Zach: It’s good, it’s good.

Zach: How did the idea of the TwoByThree EP come about?
Jon: Well, we wanted to do like another release, we wanted to do another tour before we kinda put this album to bed – because it’s been out nearly a year now – but we needed like a reason to tour. You can’t really tour without promoting it, so you can’t promote something without – so we were like “What can we do? We could release another single.” but we came to a point where we didn’t wanna just record some b-sides and put out another track, it’s just kinda like – it’s kinda ripping people off a bit. But we wanted to promote the album, which normally is what a single does, so we thought about if we did like an EP where we did a few songs, and we did one song off the album, ‘Cities On Fire’, and maybe a new song or something weird that people would like, and record it specially. Then we thought “Well, that might be a bit rubbish. What about if we did a split EP with Baddies?” ‘cause we like Baddies. So we thought about that, and we were like we could go on tour with Baddies and we could get a local support, we were like “How? Why don’t we get like another band, and then take it to like a three-band bill going around the whole country? Just three bands, and to promote the tour we’ll do a three bands on one EP, and we’ll do that kinda thing.” So, that’s what we did, that’s where the idea came about, but I think it might have been either Jamie or Guy. But, erm, with Hideous as a record label, what we tend to do is have meetings, and we just kinda brainstorm everything, and someone will come and be like “This is what we need to do.” and someone else will be like “Well that’s cool, but how about we change this?” and someone else will be like “What about we change this?” and it works out really well like that.
Zach: And just mutate it into –
Jon: And mutate it into the final product, and that’s how it came about.
Zach: Good, good.

Zach: If you were stranded on a desert island, and could only take 3 things with you, what would you they be and why?
Jon: Erm, I’d take my laptop – would I have wireless on the island? Does the island have wireless?
Zach: It may aswell, it may aswell.
Jon: Yeah, I’d take my laptop ’cause it’s got wireless, and then I’d be able to find out what’s going on, ’cause I’m quite keen on current affairs and what’s going on, so I’m always looking at news and things and seeing what’s happening now I’ve got my Sky Plus. Tell you what, since I’ve had Sky Plus this is – all I do is sit in and watch and eat at the same time. It’s brilliant, I love it. But yeah, I can’t really take my Sky Plus as that’s a bit piss-taking, but I’ll take my computer ’cause I can download films and watch what I want anyway, so that’s all good. Er, I’d probably take a little motorbike, ’cause if it’s a big island, like in Lost, I could toot around and, er –
Zach: But then what happens if you run out of petrol?
Jon: Erm… maybe I’ll convert it to solar power [laugh], solar powered motorbike. Or maybe I’d just take a pushbike; I’ll just take a bike, like a little mountain bike.
Zach: Or a scooter, or a skateboard?
Jon: Yeah, just so I could like get around a bit easier. And then third thing, it’d probably be my lovely. Take my girlfriend with me, and then you know, at least there’s two of us on the island.
Zach: A bit of company.
Jon: A bit of company, it’d be alright, yeah.

Zach: You recorded the song ‘Captain Of Lies’ with YourCodeNameIs:Milo. How did that go?
Jon: Erm, I personally I didn’t.
Zach: Oh! Did you not?
Jon: No, erm, these two did.
Zach: Awwh, so you were left out?
Jon: Yeah, well –
Guy: I’ll speak on behalf of, er –
Jon: The reason I didn’t go is ’cause I had to work.
Guy: ‘Cause I didn’t have enough room in my car. I couldn’t bring him –
Jon: Well, I was working then.
Guy: And he had to work, which was another good reason. But I – I let him come up with a reason that he couldn’t work – that ’cause he had his working first, but er, he couldn’t come ’cause there was no room in my car. So luckily, he thinks it’s just because he couldn’t do it, but actually he wouldn’t have been able to do it anyway, so…
Jon: You’re mental.
Zach: [laughs] A bit harsh.
Jon: So how’d it go?
Guy: Erm, “My mum and…” [starts singing the song]
Jon: How did the recording process go?
Guy: Oh, it went like this: We got there at about 11 o’clock, in the morning, and “Hello”, “Hello”, “We kind of know you… kind of. Erm, you’re Paul, you’re definitely Paul, and the others? What’s your name?” Okay, so we learnt each other’s names.
Jon: There was about twelve of them, wasn’t there?
Guy: And then we talked about stuff, and then we went up into their room and we set some – and then we set some drums up and some mics up, and them erm, we just er, I can’t re-fucking… I can’t explain… we just wrote music. Jamie had some ideas, there was the four of us in a circle and we just starting jamming out some ideas, and talking about ideas. Jamie pretty much had most of the song ready, and uh?
Jon: Did you pick out your favourite YourCodeNameIs:Milo members to record with?

Guy: Erm, I think they just decided already who was gonna play that day, so me and Jamie obviously were involved, and then Paul decided, you know, he’ll play some guitar and him some singing, and Jamie obviously did some singing aswell. And erm… what’s the other one? Adam, or something? [to Jamie]
Jamie: I don’t fucking know.
Guy: The other one, who plays bass. Erm –
Jon: Not me, the one in YourCodeNameIs:Milo, the bitch.
Guy: I forget his name. Is it Shaun, or something? [to Jamie]
Zach: Anyway, the other guy… [laughs]
Guy: Yeah, yeah, he played. And erm –
Jon: It’ll be on Wikipedia.
Guy: Yeah, so Jamie just said “Look, I’ve got these ideas” so we just er, they went “Oh, cool” so, we just played through some ideas, and then erm, Paul went, you know, “How about we slow this bit down? You know, go like a freetime thing?”, and I dunno, they just kind of –
Jamie: That’s my fucking idea, you turd. [to Guy]
Guy: No, but Paul did have some “How about we go – going like freetime – slowly?” I’m sure it was Paul’s idea man.
Jon: Well, Guy‘s like the Chinese whispers of the musical world.
Zach: Ahh.
Guy: Well maybe you said it, and then he went – and then he kind of said it in a way that I thought he made it up, so that’s probably what happened. So yeah, that was about it really. Basically, we wrote the song, rehearsed it, went to lunch, came back, I forgot how to play the song, and then I was really really nervous –
Jamie: He forgot everything.
Zach: The whole thing?
Guy: I literally forgot the whole thing. So we re-learnt it, and then we recorded it, and er, we finished at about… 12:00? At about midnight? And then er, had a rough mix, took that home on a minidisk, and then, yeah that was it. That was the end of our enrolment really.
Jon: The end.
Zach: The end.
Guy: Yeah.

Zach: Why was it that you left Xtra Mile Records?
Jon: Er, the reason we left Xtra Mile Records was erm, when we were looking for a deal we spoke to a few labels and stuff, and the stuff we got offered was pish, but Xtra Mile who were our press company at the time, press council, erm they said “Look, we’ve got a deal with Sony, and we’re gonna create a record label called Xtra Mile. How about we release your music?” and we were like “Yeah, sounds rad!”. So we did two albums with them, erm, and it’s all going well, really cool, but Sony decided they didn’t want to fund it anymore. So Sony pulled out, and Xtra Mile were left with a label with no finance, so they said “We wanna do your third album, but we can’t pay for much of a budget.” and we were like “Right, okay” but we were free to go because of the Sony thing. So, we had a look around, no one really came forward and said “We wanna put your album out”, we spoke to a few people but nothing really merged. So, we looked at our assets what Reuben had, and we worked out that what we could afford was roughly the same amount as what Xtra Mile could afford, so we said “Well, why don’t we just try it out and do it?”. ‘Cause we read a lot, I mean, Xtra Mile were a brand new label, so there’s a lot of stuff that they weren’t sure about and we kinda got through with them to try and work stuff out, so we knew a bit of running the stuff there. It’s a bit weird having to run a business, because it’s very like – there’s some stuff that’s the same across the whole board of companies. You have to do VAT returns, tax returns, book keeping, all this kinda stuff that any company would have to do, but having to suddenly do that – I mean we hadn’t even decided, it’s a music industry, but having to do the management aswell is a bit like… spiralling together. But it was actually really cool, and it’s been really nice like doing the label, I don’t – we’ve never fallen out with Xtra Mile, they’re wicked, and you know, they’ve got a new investor now, and like the Frank Turner stuff’s brilliant, and they’re releasing that, whatever bits and bobs they’re doing. But, when we left those guys, the label, we decided it might be an appropriate time to move on and set up – move on press companies aswell, which is where Duff came in. Duff were just this PR company that really had a lot of the same ideals as we had, and it was really nice to kind of meet like-minded people and they do a lot of cool bands, some of them I don’t really know, but it was really good.

Zach: How would you say Hideous Records has benefited you as a whole band?
Jon: Erm, it’s benefited myself with my CV ’cause it says ‘Managing Director’ – and that looks well good on a CV – and it’s been really good to learn the industry, erm, like before we kind of had a look at the touring thing going on, and we’d done a couple of independent singles anyway with erm – Badmusic; we were involved with them, Bossmusic; we were involved with them. All the labels that have released have all been sort of formulaic and have all ‘just started’ kind of labels, so we kind of helped out a lot anyway so we kind of knew a bit about the industry, but coming into we’ve learned a lot more about the music industry, we’ve got a lot more contacts, we’ve also learnt a lot about marketing and promoting and, it’s just been a learning curve. Perhaps if we had got someone involved that really knew what they were doing, maybe we would have sold millions of albums rather than like a few thousand, while to be able to say, you know, we’ve done like ‘X’ many albums is brilliant. It’s really cool.
Guy: It’s also allowed us just to continue releasing records.
Zach: Yeah.
Jon: Definitely, and it gives us the freedom just to do what we want, like go “Should we do an EP? Should we do a split EP? What should we do?” You know, a lot of labels would be like “Right, what we think now is you should do this”.
Zach: You don’t have as much freedom.
Jon: No, but it’s really cool to be able to do that. Our manager – well, there’s us three in the band, but our manager does the label aswell, so it’s four of us who do the label, and erm, it’s just been really good to sort of just get together on a weekly basis and chat through ideas. I mean, we end up just chatting about what bands are doing anyway, and go “Have you seen this band do that?” it’s more like a being with your friends, but yeah, there is a work aspect to it. It’s cool though, it’s fun.

[Jon‘s phone starts to ring, and answers it. He sends the band’s guitar tech Crouse out to the back door to let someone in]

Jon: There you go, I do apologise. Where were we?
Zach: That’s alright.

Zach: If you were a homicidal murderer, how would you go about killing your victims?
Jon: I’d do it very – hopefully strategically –
Crouse: [To Jon] That back door?
Jon: Yeah, he’ll be there in a minute. Tch, this is the people we have to deal with.
Crouse: I’m what?
Jon: I said you’re the type of people we have to deal with.
Crouse: I’ll deal with you.
Jon: Yeah, right.
Crouse: Any day.
Jon: … your jumper’s inside-out. Anyway, er [laughs] erm, if I was a homicide how would I go about it? Well, I’d definitely – would I be killing people just ’cause I like killing, or would I be killing people ’cause I don’t like them?
Zach: Just ’cause you’re a psychopath.
Jon: If it was someone – if I was supposed to kill ’cause I liked killing, I’d find someone who lived – who was totally, you know, nothing to do with me at all, like a total stranger, and I’d kill them by chopping them up as much as I could, and putting them in a vat. I mean a lot of people go “I’ll put them in a vat of acid”, which isn’t really that readily available, but, I think what I’d do is put them in a big steel drum, fill it with concrete, and then get a little fishing boat and sail out to the middle of the Russian sea, into the – or the North, the North sea, drop it the middle of there where it’d sink to the bottom and never be found again. That’s what I’d do.
Zach: That’s quite… psychopathic.
Jon: Yeah, well, I kinda thought about it, and it was like “Well, I don’t wanna get busted”. It is all good, it is all good.

Zach: It’s been almost a year since you released ‘In Nothing We Trust’, how’s the reception been to this date?
Jon: Well, because of off the back of ‘In Nothing We Trust’ there’s been a lot of media, and a lot of press for it, and the press for this album particularly was incredible. It was 4 out of 5s, 5 out of 5s in like Kerrang!, and all the big, big magazines which is – and online people aswell, it’s been brilliant. It’s been really weird to kind of receive that, ’cause a lot of people are quite harsh on Reuben I think, we get a lot of dissing. There’s not – I mean, we don’t have one style of music, we’re a bit of rock, and a bit of pop, and –
Zach: I read some like – on Drowned In Sound they’ve put this one for ‘Very Fast Very Dangerous’, and they were like quite harsh, and I was like…
Jon: Yeah, well you see ‘Very Fast Very Dangerous’ I really – is one of my more favourites. I – I – each album I love, ’cause like I could – I don’t listen to them but I could listen to them. Each one I think is different, which I think is really important. I don’t like –

Zach: Yeah, why would you want to release the same album over and over again?
Jon: Yeah, like, the first one ‘Racecar…’ had a lot of riffs and singing, and a bit of metal, a bit of pop, and then ‘Very Fast Very Dangerous’ has a lot – it’s very riff-based, you know, it’s got lighter moments and – and then ‘In Nothing We Trust’ is like darker than the two, and it’s kinda because of that album we had a lot of tracks that people hadn’t really had a chance to hear before because we hadn’t toured. And it was like, suddenly that album opened us a lot of doors for us ’cause it let us play Download and stuff like that. I know it came out after Download, but the influence was from that. Because it was such a heavy record aswell I think a lot of people thought we’d do a really safe record, to try and get a bit of airplay. I’m just gonna stick my head out of this door.
Zach: Alright.
Jon: So we get a bit of airplay, but, erm… [Jon goes out to check the door] so anyway, but yeah, it’s been good.

Zach: Is there any progress with a fourth studio album yet?
Jon: Yeah, well, Jamie’s written a lot of material. There’s a fourth project, not just an album, it’s something else, and there’s another album aswell. So, if Reuben split-up there’ll be a lot of stuff that could be combined together to do a greatest unreleased thing, or something like that. There’s a lot of bits of bobs, but you know, we’ve got plans to keep going, and doing more and more. And you know, we might have breaks, but we’ll only be getting – ’cause we’ve been doing this solidly for like, I don’t know, I’ve been doing it since ’96, so that’s just 12 years. But you know, the – the DVD was made, and that had mine and Jamie‘s 10th anniversary.
Zach: Yeah, that was when you were in Pizza Hut? Yeah.
Jon: Yeah, and that was like 2 years ago. It’s just nuts how – where the time goes. I think we’re due for a little break, ’cause we’ve always just released an album, released an album, released an album. A lot of bands release an album, stop for a few months, and then go back and do another one. We didn’t really have any real critical success or any real financial gain, so we can’t go despite our morals and go appreciate our swimming pools and houses and stuff and then come back and do another tour, we’ve always had to kind of just keep on going. So – but it’s cool.

Zach: If you could be a member of another band for the day, who’d you be and why?
Jon: Er, I’d probably be in Nine Inch Nails just for a day. I fucking love Nine Inch Nails. They just have amazing songs, and live shows, and everything. But, I’ve always took Trent Reznor as kind of like a bit…
Zach: Weird in a way?
Jon: Yes, I wouldn’t like to do it for a day. I respect them like. I mean, Nirvana are my favourite band, but I wouldn’t want to be in Nirvana. It would kinda like ruin that like – you being inside would ruin – I mean, having met a lot of sort of famous people from doing this, it’s like, “It’s not really famous people, it’s just a hoax really”. It just totally like, all your illusions about how grand and brilliant someone is are just like…

Zach: What’s your favourite type of biscuit?
Jon: Erm, Jaffa Cakes are my favourite biscuity things, but they’re really biscuits because they’re Jaffa Cakes. Now apparently, they’ve been proved to be cakes.
Zach: Cakes?
Jon: There was a lawsuit, erm, because – this is what my friend Jim was telling me today – he was saying that– [pointing to Jamie] not this Jim, the other one – he was saying that if – you pay less tax on a cake, and more tax on a biscuit, so apparently McVitie’s were really like “We’ve gotta prove that they’re – gotta prove that they’re cakes.” and they proved it by saying that when biscuits go stale they’re soft, and when Jaffa Cakes go stale they go hard, thus being like a cake. So, good evidence, but erm, probably a Jammie Dodger. Jam inside, I like a bit – I don’t like too much of one thing, I like a bit of variety. I mean you’ve got the cream and the jam, so…
Zach: Pretty good.

Zach: What have been the best and worst fan experiences so far?
Jon: Of Reuben?
Zach: Yes.
Jon: I’ve had the best and the worst one on this tour, a couple of days ago. It was brilliant, and terrible at the same time. I go jumping off the stage and stuff, and I just kind of slipped over the drum kit and bailed into the drums, wiped out cold right inside of Guy‘s kit. The cymbals and stuff, it all fell off – it was the very last song, and I got bruises all down my leg and fell flat on my face. And at the time it really hurt and I was really embarrassed, but it was awesome, it was so rock. It felt so un-rock that it was wicked. Yeah, it was just like “This is well good. I wish I could do this seriously”. So I did that. That was cool. Erm, being asked to play Download festival, I’d complain that the show itself was a bit rubbish, it was a bit like… boring, you know, there wasn’t – like, not many people there because it was so early in the day, but someone saying to you “Can your band play the main stage at Download?” you’re like “That’s amazing”. Erm, yeah, meeting Green Day at the Kerrang! Awards 2004 was pretty amazing. It was kind of before they got to the point of where like your mum knows who Green Day are, it was like when they were just getting more massive.
Zach: Before ‘American Idiot’?
Jon: Yeah, it was just before that, and that was amazing, ’cause I’ve been a fan for years, just, you know. Getting chucked out of the Kerrang! Awards with this one [Jon points towards Guy] was awesome. “A bit of a lightweight” – he went straight down, it was very funny him spewing everywhere. It was just brilliant.
Zach: Sounds like a fun night.
Jon: Yeah. Was it worst experiences aswell?
Zach: Yeah.
Jon: I dunno, well the worst experiences, just sort of turning up to a venue and playing to like a handful of people, and we think it was gonna sell out, or – I mean tonight’s proper cool. Tonight’s sold out, it’s all good. But being relegated, we were supposed to be in Academy 2, but we only sold like half the tickets, so they moved us down here and now it’s sold out, so… why didn’t we just stay up there, and just keep selling? So you know, that kind of thing. I mean, that’s an example of it, but that thing happens quite a lot, like you turn up to play a festival and there’s only a hundred kids there, or you do this and there’s only a couple of people there, so… it’s alright though.
Zach: Just a bit disappointed.
Jon: Yeah, so that’s it, and those are the things, like to be doing it this long and not be – like to see there’s bands, like new young bands that are shit, getting massive and then splitting up, or getting massive and then disappearing, you know, that’s the worst bit I think, ’cause you’re like “My band’s well better than them, and… they’re huge”. It’s a bit of a shame, but it’s all good.

Zach: What are your favourite songs to play live?
Jon: Reuben songs?
Zach: Yes.
Jon: Erm, I really enjoy playing ‘Banner Held High’, ‘Blamethrower’, ‘No One Wins The War’, kind of songs that I can kind of swing guitar around, and hit the strings without really concentrating. It’s like the tough ones like ‘Blood, Bunny…’ I don’t really love playing ’cause I kind of have to do a little fiddly ‘didalee-didalee-didalee’ bit and I don’t – it’s not my style, I’m kinda just swinging aimlessly at the guitar, so, that’s kinda what I do. So those are the kind of songs I like, just kind of the balls-out rockier ones.

Zach: Where do you actually originate? ’cause I get confused between Guildford, and Aldershot, and Camberley.
Jon: Infact, none of those places. Erm, Jamie and I went to school in Camberley, I lived in a town called Lightwater, I now live in a town called Hempside, very close to each other, and Jamie lived on the other side. Then he moved to Camberley, when he was in the band, but Camberley was our – was the nearest big town, so Camberley. And then we started playing with other drummers in Aldershot, which is here [Jon starts using his hands to show where each town is from one another] in Aldershot. Erm, and then when our other drummer left, Guy joined, and he lives in a place called Lilford, or Hindhead Way, it’s down by Godalming near Guildford. So he lives there, and me and Jamie live here. Now Jamie lives in another town around here, and I live in a town there, but Aldershot’s kinda central, so Aldershot is pretty much our – where we’re from.

Zach: Erm, I had a question for Jamie?
Jon: Yeah… Jamie?
Zach: I’ve got a question for you; how much did your darlek cost?
Jamie: £800
Jon: Did you pay Crouse to go get it? Petrol?
Jamie: Yeah, but he wouldn’t accept any. I paid for his petrol, yeah, but he wouldn’t accept any money for the favour. But it was a fun time.
Jon: £800, plus delivery.
Zach: It’s pretty big, and he made it himself.
Jon: Yeah, it’s really good actually. I mean bits are falling off it, but you know, it’s well good.

Zach: If you could tour with any band, dead or alive, who would it be?
Jon: I’d tour with Nirvana every night just so I could see ’em, but I’d have to be careful, ’cause like I said about – like you tour with bands that you idolise, and then you see – they end up as cocks, so, it might be a bit of a risk. But, I’d try and tour with Billy Talent again. Awesome, awesome band. Biggest shows we’ve had. Did you go to those shows?
Zach: I went to both of them, yeah.
Jon: Oh, wicked. It’s just like, they’re such a good band, and they were so nice to us aswell, like –
Zach: They took you around Europe aswell, didn’t they?
Jon: They took us around Europe, and like we said “Oh, we can’t play the shows ’cause we don’t get enough – like, we just can’t afford to do it. There’s not enough money”, and they were like “Well, we’ll take less money. Here’s a bit more for you” and we’re like “Cool”. And they were like “Do you know what? We’re gonna have food. We’re gonna have catering every night.” like the company comes in and cooks, they were like “You can have that aswell” and we we’re like “Right, okay”.
Zach: Just take it.
Jon: Yeah, you know, and we don’t get that from bands that we grew up with, you know, that big. This is like some dudes from Canada who like our band, it’s awesome, you know, and if anyone deserves to be massive they do, and it’s fair play to them. They’re doing a tour with My Chemical Romance at the moment I think?
Zach: Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
Jon: You know, fair play. Brilliant, brilliant band. Brilliant guys. So I’d tour with them again most definitely.

Zach: What can we expect from Reuben in 2008?
Jon: Well, we’re gonna finish this tour. We’re gonna do a tour in Germany. Er…
Zach: Isn’t that Give It A Name?
Jon: Give It A Name in Germany. Er, and then we’re gonna do a little bit of time off. Ahh no, we’re going to some festival-type things, like kinda small minory things, industry things, but then we’re gonna take a little bit of time off I think, and then maybe do a new record, and then back again maybe in 2009. So it’s gonna be a bit more casual to previous years, but you know, I think it’s time we kind of had a bit of rest, ’cause we’ve all got houses – we’ve got to try and sort houses and jobs and stuff, so, you know. We’ve never been – like it’s cool to come here and play in-front of 500 kids, you know, brilliant, wicked, great vibe, but it doesn’t pay any bills. So, we need to kind of – I have a day off on Tuesday when I have to go work. My girlfriend’s fuming ’cause I’m not going to see her, it’s like “Sorry, I’ve got work. I’ve had two weeks off” but it’s alright. You know, it’s fun to do, it’s just the case of like just balancing the two, making sure you can have fun but have to treat it like a job aswell.
Zach: Cool.
Jon: Yeah, but there you go.

From there we leave Jon, Jamie, and Guy to finish preparing for tonight’s show, with support acts The Ghost Of A Thousand and Baddies. The future of Reuben is uncertain, but only in the realms of something positive, and not dwelling in that of the negative. We agree that the guys do deserve a short break from things, but hope it doesn’t last too long.

Written by Zach Redrup